Re: Tsuhon: tentative phonology

On Wed, 25 Apr 2001, D Tse wrote:

> > Barry Garcia wrote:
> > > In Japanese, doesnt u (depending where it is, i havent studied
> > it, but can
> > > think of examples), and usually i (at least after /S/) tend to be very
> > > very faintly pronounced anyway?
> >
> > Only word-finally or between voiceless consonants.
> >
> > > So, wouldnt it
> > > not be unreasonable for Yoon to keep the /St/ she likes?\
> >
> > Yeah, just not /Sv/, that would still have to be /Siv/
> >
>
> Isn't the orthographical _f_ in Japanese an allophone of /h/ for after a
> rounded front vowel and in actual fact a bilabial fricative, and _v_ (a
> recently new sound added to spell some foreign words) the voiced version of
> that?
>
> Did these Japanese bilabials become labiodental in this interesting
> Japanese-German fusion? :)
Yes.  I'm sorry I forgot to mention that; while I might keep _f_ ([F]?
looks like phi) as an allophone of /h/ after /u-/ (I think that's where
it occurs? but I only know the basic hiragana/katakana...), I really love
labiodentals and wanted phi to change to [f] and acquire the voiced [v]
out of German influences.

YHL