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Re: CHAT : Origin of the name "Northumbria"

From:Joe <joe@...>
Date:Saturday, November 27, 2004, 22:03
Andreas Johansson wrote:

>Quoting Joe <joe@...>: > > > >>Andreas Johansson wrote: >> >> >> >>>I ended up in a discussion of this on a gaming forum, arguing it's the kind >>> >>> >>of >> >> >>>name one'd expect to be given by othersiders rather than a self-assumed one; >>>for the Northumbrians themselves, living north of the Humber probably did >>> >>> >>not >> >> >>>seem like the most noteworthy thing about them. >>> >>>Is it known where the name originates? >>> >>> >>> >>> >>No, it does originate from that. I think that Southumbria was found in >>some texts, actually. It comes from 'Norþhymber', I believe, which has >>a pretty transparent origin. >> >> > >Not from _what_, but from _where_; I'm not interested in the etymology, but >_where_ the name was coined, specifically whether in Northumbria itself or >somewhere south of the Humber. > > >
Ah, right. Well, either possibility seems likely to me. Because Northumbria was the union of two kingdoms (Bernicia and Deira), it is possible it was a name coined for the new entity by the Northumbrians - called so because it now contained all the lands north of the Humber. Or, as you say, it could have been an (exonym?).

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