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Re: Save of the dative, the genitive's is already dead!

From:Henrik Theiling <theiling@...>
Date:Sunday, June 12, 2005, 16:27
Hi!

Jean-François Colson <fa597525@...> writes:
> On Sunday, June 12, 2005 12:40 AM CEST, Carsten Becker wrote: > > > Another question (my question) is, why the conjunction "weil" > > ("because", also governing genitive case!) developed towards triggering > > SVO in the following undoubtly subordinate clause, although the standard > > word order in subordinate clauses is SOV. > > Perhaps because "weil" is a CO-ORDINATING conjunction like und, aber, oder, > etc. > In Dutch there're two words to translate "because": "want" and "omdat". > "Want" is a co-ordinating conjunction ==> SVO > whereas "omdat", which is a pronominal adverb, is used as a subordinating > conjunction ==> SOV. > Is there something similar in German?
Yes, that's the strange thing: weil ~ omdat -> SOV (normal, unmarked word order typical for subordinate clauses) denn ~ want -> V2 (not SVO, but verb second order, just as in a normal propositional clause) Now the trend is that colloquially, 'weil' also moves towards V2 order. **Henrik