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Re: Improved (Short) Ygyde

From:Andrew Nowicki <andrew@...>
Date:Wednesday, April 16, 2003, 15:54
Nik Taylor wrote:

NT> P.S., does your new rule mean that the language
NT> can now be called Ygde?

I described it in the main Ygyde file as a way to
modify 6 and 7 letters long words. It seems to me
that 5 letters long words do not benefit from this
rule. For example, I believe that "Ygyde" sounds
better than "Ygde". "Ygde" would be justified if
there was another word that sounded similar to
"Ygyde".

Mike Ellis wrote:

ME> Do NOT get me started on how "sounding good"
ME> is entirely subjective.

NT> French is popular for the cultural connotations
NT> of the French people, not for the sound of the
NT> language, which quite a number of people on
NT> this list (including myself) have stated that
NT> they find unpleasant.

If you are correct, foundations of Ygyde are perfect.

ME> ONE set of roots will do fine, but you can extend
ME> the number of possible roots to have BOTH CV and CVV
ME> syllables. The original complaints with Ygyde were
ME> that its paucity of roots required words to be too
ME> vaguely defined, thus defeating the purpose of
ME> building meaning-based words since the words
ME> had to be memorised as wholes anyway.

Adding more roots makes sense only if these roots are
used frequently. I cannot think of any missing roots
that would be used as often as the existing roots.
Some pairs of the Ygyde syllables gained new meaning.
For example, bird = ytebo = "noun top animal". All
names of common birds have syllable "te" = top and
syllable "bo" = animal.

Perhaps the CVV and CCV roots could be used for
professional terminology. This idea contradicts the
Short Ygyde concept, so it looks like a wash rather
than a breakthrough. I like diversity, so I would
welcome more Ygyde-like languages. As a matter of
fact, Ygyde already has 3 forms: Short, Standard, and
Long. One would have to make the new language you and
Joe Fatula are talking about to find out if this new
language has clear advantages. You really have to
make at least a thousand compound words to get the
feel for the new language.

ME> As far as I can tell from what I've seen, logically
ME> compounding words is the most important feature of Ygyde.

True.

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