Re: Subjunctive

 --- Christophe Grandsire
<christophe.grandsire@...> wrote: > En réponse à
Nik Taylor <yonjuuni@...>:
>
> >
> > Spanish has a very rarely used subjunctive future,
> mostly only used in
> > legal documents and the like.
> >
>
> Yes I remember it! It's a form nearly identical to
> the imperfect subjunctive
> in -r-, except that the endings in -a- are replaced
> by endings in -e- (so
> haber -> hubiera -> hubiere, estar -> estuviera ->
> estuviere, querer ->
> quisiera -> quisiere). When I heard that Spanish had
> a form like that, I
> remember thinking that it was a shame it lost it ;))
> . And that's why both
> Reman and Narbonese have a subjunctive future (in
> Reman it's a strange form
> which seems to be somewhat descended from the Latin
> future participle, while in
> Narbonósc it is formed like the indicative future,
> adding the endings of the
> verb avôre "to have" in the subjunctive present to
> the infinitive of the verb
> (but in this case, the endings are identical to the
> ones of any other verb in
> the subjunctive present, and the stress is not fixed
> as in the indicative
> future).
>
well,

use of the subjunctive ( hope i'm not duplicating . .
. i've tried to check the list for messages but have
been so busy i haven't been able to read everything )
: afaik it depends on language but usually has some
sense of omitting to mention whether something is the
case. ie, if you're talking about fact you use the
indicative, if you're talking about a situation which
might or might not be the case, but can be conceived
of, you use the subjunctive.

hence the use in remote conditional clauses ( where
not commenting on something's actuality makes it more
distant ), or in indirect command clauses &c ( where
the clause represents a thought content )

my analysis anyway ( and probably badly explained ) ;
it's the basis of the uses of the subjunctive in bac
anyway,

bn

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bnathyuw | landan | arR
stamp the sunshine out | angelfish
your tears came like anaesthesia | phèdre

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