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Re: cases

From:bnathyuw <bnathyuw@...>
Date:Sunday, December 1, 2002, 14:29
 --- Peter Clark <peter-clark@...> wrote: > On
Saturday 30 November 2002 09:09 pm, Florian
> Rivoal wrote: > > I am considering creating an inflected conlang (i > have not started at all, > > just thinking of it). But i have a problem: I > don't know much about cases. > > I could create some out of nowhere(i maybe i will > for some) for my lang, > > but i would like first to know what existing > natlangs or conlang have. I am > > only familiar with five of them: > Well, you could start with the FAQ. :) > (, > search for "Introduction to Cases.") It's in > desperate need of revision and > polishing, but it's a start. > > > first question : Am i right with these 5? > Well, that's one possible system, out of > many. I think the bare minimum is > three (assuming an accusative system); nominative, > accusative, and > oblique/genitive/dative (pick one). English, for > instance, has case remnants: > accusative and genitive show up in the pronouns > (me/my) as well as the 's > possessive ending. If there are langs (con- or nat-) > that only have two, I'd > be interested in hearing about it.
well, bac has two ( altho it has three forms, as both case and definiteness are marked on the same part of the stem and the middle form is ambiguous ) anyway, they are : ~direct ( subject of a verb, adverbial function ) ~oblique ( adjectival function, fronted form ) basically, if a noun comes after another noun which it modifies, or before the first subject of a sentence to modify the whole sentence, it goes in the oblique. if it comes before a verb as one of the agents involved in the verb's action, or after a verb to modify the action of the verb, it goes in the direct there isn't a case for the object of a verb because ( as i've said many times ) bac verbs don't have objects bn ===== bnathyuw | landan | arR stamp the sunshine out | angelfish your tears came like anaesthesia | phèdre __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts