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Re: cases

From:Christophe Grandsire <christophe.grandsire@...>
Date:Friday, March 5, 1999, 9:33
At 15:43 04/03/99 -0500, you wrote:
>Wow! > >I'm really impressed with how much people on this list know about
>I could sure use some help. > >I am working on a series of lessons for my conlang and I am unsure what to
>the various cases that are used in it. Being a fiction writer, and not a >professional >linguist, I invented the language first and am analyzing its grammar now. > >One case that I am having the most trouble naming describes the source,
origin or
>composition >of the action or of another noun. It serves as the instrumental case but
also has
>several other >functions. For example: "The ring [nom.] is (made of) gold [case x]."
Or, "Joe
>[nom.] is reading >a book [acc.] by Sartre [case x]." "Schmoe [nom.] is scared of dogs [case
x]." I
>don't think that >ablative is the right word to describe this case because I have a separate
>that marks movement >or action out of, away from or before something. Here's an example: "Denise >received a >letter from Joe [case x] from the mailman [ablative]. >
In my Azak, I use a case that has nearly the same extent of meanings, and I call it "original" or "originative", the case of the origine (author, matter, etc...) I think that's almost the same as your case x.
>What do you call a case that combines features of Comitative ("Joe [nom.]
>with >Schmoe [com.].), Inessive ("Joe [nom.] is inside the car [ine.]."),
Adessive ("Joe
>[nom.] is >standing near the tree [ad.].") and Locative ("Joe is in the mall
[loc.].")? I'm
>thinkng of >just calling this one Locative or Adessive, but I'm not sure which (if
either) is
>more >appropriate. >
I'm not sure here, better listen to real linguists!
>What do you call a case that combines features of Allative ("Joe [nom.] is
>to >the office [all.].") and Illative ("Joe [nom.] is walking into the building >[ill.].")? >
I would call that a "lative" (movement towards, to or into).
>What do you call a case that combines features of Ablative ("Joe [nom.]
>home >from work [abl.].") and Ellative ("Joe [nom.] is walking out of the building >[ell.].")? >This case is the inverse of the case above. It indicates motion or action
>from >or before something. >
Here I use the word "delative", which I find appropriate.
>Thanks, > >Sid > >(the URL to lessons in oyAlevain is forthcoming.) > >
Hope it helped. Christophe Grandsire |Sela Jemufan Atlinan C.G. "Reality is just another point of view." homepage :