|From:||Nik Taylor <fortytwo@...>|
|Date:||Friday, March 5, 1999, 3:26|
Mathew Willoughby wrote:
> One case that I am having the most trouble naming describes the
> source, origin or composition of the action or of another noun.
> It serves as the instrumental case but also has several other
> functions. For example: "The ring [nom.] is (made of) gold [case x]."
> Or, "Joe [nom.] is reading a book [acc.] by Sartre [case x]."
> "Schmoe [nom.] is scared of dogs [case x]." I don't think that ablative
> is the right word to describe this case because I have a separate case
> that marks movement or action out of, away from or before something.
> Here's an example: "Denise received a letter from Joe [case x] from
> the mailman [ablative].
Hmm, I was about to suggest ablative. You could use _elative_ for what
you're calling _ablative_. Elative refers to motion out of something.
Does your Case X also cover genetive? Because if so, then that would be
the best term. If not, perhaps instrumental might also be good. It's
not unusual for a langauge to have a difficult case.
> What do you call a case that combines features of Comitative ("Joe [nom.]
> danced with Schmoe [com.].), Inessive ("Joe [nom.] is inside the car
> [ine.]."), Adessive ("Joe [nom.] is standing near the tree [ad.].") and
> Locative ("Joe is in the mall [loc.].")?
I'd suggest sticking with locative.
> What do you call a case that combines features of Allative ("Joe [nom.] is going
> to the office [all.].") and Illative ("Joe [nom.] is walking into the building
Allative. Allative frequently includes illative functions. Allative
simply indicates motion toward, not specifying whether the motion ends
inside the other object.
> What do you call a case that combines features of Ablative ("Joe [nom.]
> coming home from work [abl.].") and Ellative ("Joe [nom.] is walking out
> of the building [ell.].")?
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