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Re: Gender (was: Homosexuality and gender identity)

From:Christophe Grandsire <christophe.grandsire@...>
Date:Wednesday, May 28, 2003, 13:14
En réponse à John Cowan :


>Sounds like a good plan.
At least it works, and doesn't create bizarre constructions or strange agreement patterns :)) .
>BTW, how strange would it be to use "ils" of a group that just happens >to contain only women?
It would be completely incorrect. If you refer to a group only of women with "ils", you would likely be at least verbally corrected (and you should expect to be subject of the wrath of said group of women ;)))) ). There's just no way one can refer to one woman with "il", so you can't refer to only women with "ils". "Ils" for a mixed group of men and women is only there because there's need for a default, and even then this default is quite often considered uneasy to use (especially when the group is made majoritarily of women). Personally, I tend to use "ils" only when men are in majority or there is equality of number. When women are in majority, I tend to separate the men from the women.
> There is a running dispute among Americans >about the propriety of saying "guys" about a group of women, given that >"guy", singular, is certainly male; some people like it, some don't.
You girls?! ;)))) (or "You dolls", as I've seen quite often the expression "guys and dolls" in the spam I receive on my hotmail address ;))) ) Christophe Grandsire. http://rainbow.conlang.free.fr You need a straight mind to invent a twisted conlang.

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Christophe Grandsire <christophe.grandsire@...>
John Cowan <jcowan@...>
Roger Mills <romilly@...>