Re: YAC: Widse -- a conlang based on Ygyde

On Tue, 28 Jan 2003 10:34:26 +0100
Christophe Grandsire <christophe.grandsire@...> wrote:

> En réponse à Tristan <kesuari@...>:
>
> > >
> > Oh, thankyou! /me pulls out his knife labelled 'high vowels' and
> > points
> > it menacingly in the direction of Ygyde.
> >
>
> Which quickly retracts to Ygde in order to not have to feel the blade ;))) .
It'll still suffer the knife labelled 'initial vowels', not to mention the sandpaper
specifically for voiced fricatives... really, if I'm not careful, I'll have
nothing left but a @ for the name of the language...

> > and anyway, didn't you see Padraic's definition of Maggelity?
>
> Well, I only saw what Arthaey showed on Conlang. I'm not on Langmaker2. But
> the definition fits Maggelity well too :) .
Yeah, same here. But it's still Padraic's definitoin.

> I especially like letters which, in order to make sense, are to be taken as
> part of two digraphs at the same time, so that you actually have digraphs
> coalescing in the orthography ;)) .
But that's only because you're pure evil. But then again, who isn't? Muahaha!

> > You'd have even more fun considering the word critique, I imagine ;P
>
> I tend to write it in English to mean "someone whose job is to criticise". I
> think it's common in British use too?
I wouldn't know, I'm from Australia.* And I don't have reason to use the critic or critique much...

*We have our own expressions here as well as more than our fair share of both
Britishisms and Americanisms.

> > I wouldn't know. What's the difference between Romantic and Classical?
> >
>
> Well, I know *that* difference.
At least one of us do.

> But I always thought that the Dada movement was just the early first step of
> post-modernism...
Could be, though I thought the early twenties were too early to be post-modern? (At
least architecturally, but that's the only thing I have a vague idea about with
this whole subject because you see ugly things like Jeff Shed (correctly the
Melbourne Exhibition Centre, I think. It looks like a post-modern rendition of
former Victorian Premier Jeff Kennet's hair. As a *building*).

> Well, I haven't much to say so far, except that it's impressive how much work
> you already put into it :)) .
But can I tell you, a more-than-vague but less-than-perfect idea in a head is very
hard to get onto paper, especially with an ever-changing target (do I want
voiced stops or not? retroflex consonants? to get rid of these vowels?)... All
I know is that i want a vowel-, diphthong- and glide-rich language with
horrible onsets that's totally irregular, but I'm not sure how to reconcile the
first two, given what I've got to work with... Maybe I have to make two
languages which come together and become a creole?

> And I really like to see Maggelity or near-
> Maggelity emerge from perfectly sound sound changes (it makes me think that
> Maggel may actually be plausible ;)))) ).
Thanks. And of course Maggel is plausible: haven't you seen the awful (or maybe just
aweful) things some natlangs do to themselves?? Anything you can think up, some
natlang out there's already thought of and done it ten-times worse!

Tristan.
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