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Re: Borrowing Words

From:Robert Wilson <han_solo55@...>
Date:Saturday, September 27, 2003, 3:50
On Fri, 26 Sep 2003 15:57:52 -0700 Costentin Cornomorus
<elemtilas@...> writes:
> --- Robert Wilson <han_solo55@...> wrote: > > > kasano allows /br/, but it doesn't occur in any > > native words, but it > > dislikes Cr clusters in adjacent syllables, but > > nC clusters in adjacent > > syllables are allowed. the vowel inserted to > > break up an illegal cluster > > depends on what the first consonant is. > > Are clusters allowed only in certain places?
well, nC clusters aren't allowed initially and final clusters aren't allowed at all, but that didn't come into play in this case... i'm working on putting together a page for kasano to put on my web site, it'll probably be up in a few days.
> Talarian allows cr-, çr-, ffl-, ffr-, pr-, tl-, > xl- (xr- ?) and tr-; sp- st-. Undoubtedly because > L and R are seen as somewhat vocalic. I'm not > sure what allows pr- but not pl-.
well, i'm not sure why, but some of my conlangs (kinsi rorotan and senoi that i can remember) apparently view /r/ as being more vocalic than /l/, even when /r/ is [4] and /l/ is [l] (senoi, for example)... in kasano it doesn't matter, since there is no /l/. senoi was my second conlang... it has a lot of phonemes (i think it had about 80 or so...), and the fact that every verb is at least 5 syllables sort of made it difficult say anything in it...
> Padraic.
-- __ __ ____ ____ / / ___ ____ ___ ___ / /__ / __// __/ / _ \/ _ `/ _ \ (_-</ _ \/ / _ \/__ \/__ \ /_//_/\_,_/_//_/__/___/\___/_/\___/____/____/ /___/ Robert Wilson http://www.kuvazokad.tk/ -- http://kuvazokad.free.fr/ http://www.rahxephonwallpapers.tk/ http://www.zipit.tk/ vkky vnkynvj vknyknj ykkv knvy? karkalone kontoko? kinsi rorotan kinsa nadas? baitta ke farzaiyai? zres ðu ðjass? rkqxeoitns fxkioxtexikrtx ixqa yxnomk atpukno ujklevt? pake biru ka pa rede? wa kase kasano na to? gmemte te gmetmam tirakem? tsxöxkxye tsxöx röjtyxnïsz? spreken þu viserdya? "boys speak in rhythm and girls just lie." -- anberlin - "foreign language" "i put out disco's inferno in the early eighties i would not be in a boy band, punk gets all the ladies i could take the backstreet boys or hanson or n'sync britney spears and ricky martin, we all think you stink" -- trendy - "punk rocker" narav teraz' iroti kojes krat erarota kuna, ysivaz' entas naradas krat zuny narav kuraz dityvyszi, radyji, sa rodyji dimokrosi zosa endas d' erensa dades kirs ins wiz ---BEGIN CONLANGER CODE BLOCK--- Version: 0.1a CART/O s: a18:4 h- b c15 v1200 l++ Y++ w+:www.kuvazokad.tk C+++ y ----END CONLANGER CODE BLOCK---- -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- Version: 3.1 GCS/M/O d-(---) s: a18 C++$ UL++++>$ P+>++ L+(++)>++++ E--- W++(+++) N o? K--- w+(--) O?> M-- V? PS PE+ Y+(++) PGP++ t+(*) 5-- X+++ R- tv b+++ DI+ D--- G++++ e h! r-->+++ y- ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------