Re: [YAEUT] Lexical variation survey

Tristan McLeay wrote:
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>
> No, normal lemonade is carbonated;
No - this is clearly a regional and, possibly, a generation difference.

> "uncarbonated lemonade" is just as strange a concept to me as to you.
Quite normal to me. As Chamber's English Dictionary says of 'lemonade':
"a drink (still or aerated) made with lemon juice or more or less
flavoured with lemon."

I remember in the post-war years one could buy crystals to make
home-made lemonade - it was certainly not carbonated. That was as near
'normal' lemonade as one got at that time. As lemons got more plentiful,
then real lemons were used.

I recall that orangeade was quite common at one time also. That also
could be still or carbonated.

I would even now feel the need, if I were ordering lemonade in a bar or
cafe, to specify if I wanted it 'still' or 'fizzy'.

> Normal lemonade is stuff like Sprite
> and doesn't really taste of lemon (nor of "lemon lime" as Wikipedia
> calls it).
It doesn't, does it. I call Sprite 'Sprite' - not lemonade.
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Herman Miller wrote:
 > Noelle Morris wrote:
 >> Weird; I never knew that non-American English speakers thought of
 >> "lemonade"
 >> as a different thing. In the US, "lemonade" is uncarbonated, sweetened
 >> lemon
 >> juice, as are similar constructions with "-ade" at the end;

Yep - that's the still stuff. Over here in Rightpondia we wouldn't find
it strange to say 'fizzy lemonade' if we wanted it carbonated. Certainly
some of my generation does not automatically think lemonade has to be
carbonated. Indeed, the 'normal', home-made stuff is not.

 >> off the top of my head, I can only think of limeade. I refer to
Sprite and the like as
 >> either "clear soda" or "lemon-lime soda";

Fizzy lemonade - tho IMO it's pushing the definition with Sprite itself  ;)

 >>someone above mentioned
 >> orangeade,
 >> which I can only assume they mean a carbonated drink, in which case it
 >> would
 >> be "orange soda".

No - by orangeade I would expect it to be uncarbonated, unless I
specified otherwise.

 > There's Gatorade, if that counts.

I first came across that name last year on a trip in Peru. Our guide had
a heavy native accent, and many of our party heard the word as "Gay
toilette" and were somewhat puzzled as he went on to extol its excellence!!

When he actually pointed out the drink, all become clear. But 'Gatorade'
- sounds to me as tho it's drink made from (ali)gator juice    :)

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