Re: R: Moraic codas [was Re: 'Yemls Morphology]

Oops.

On Thu, 12 Jul 2001, dirk elzinga wrote:

> No need to invoke the classical foot typology. What it looks
> like to me is that you have a system in which coda consonants
> are not moraic, and that the stress falls on the penultimate
> mora.
I neglected the example /.ka'si.ku.la./, in which the final
syllable is in fact not counted (just like you said). Sooo ...

It seems that since coda consonants are not moraic, a final
closed syllable only counts for one mora. But this mora is *not*
ignored for stress in your first example, /.ir'man.den./, or in
the examples with a final diphthong or long vowel /.am.ni'pai./
and /.in'tu:t./. However, the final mora *is* ignored in
/.ka'si.ku.la./. Right now, I can't think of a single set of
rules which would cover both kinds of cases.

On Fri, 13 Jul 2001, Roger Mills wrote:
>
> Rule 1:  a diphthong/long V in the ultima is stressed, otherwise--
> Rule 2:  a heavy penult (-CVC-) is stressed, otherwise--
> Rule 3:  stress the antepenult (no matter whether heavy or light)
This is as good a description as I can see, and demonstrates
that syllables show a ranking of "stressability":

        CVV > CVC ( > CV)

This is essentially the same hierarchy which linguists have
proposed for heavy syllables. If a language counts closed
syllables as heavy (bimoraic), it will also count long vowels as
heavy.

Dirk

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Dirk Elzinga                          dirk.elzinga@m.cc.utah.edu

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