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Re: R: Moraic codas [was Re: 'Yemls Morphology]

From:Roger Mills <romilly@...>
Date:Friday, July 13, 2001, 4:21
Luca Mangiat wrote:

>I'm actually working at a 'skeleton' which should work as Senquarian's >ancestral language. I'd like the stress system to work on moraic
principles.
>Could you professional linguists/phonologists take a look at this, please?
Not sure I count as a professional anymore-- having forgotten much, and not very familiar with the system you're using here ;-( -- but:
> >GENERAL RULE: final syllables are not moraic (thus they can never get >stressed), unless they contain a long vowel or a diphtong. > >The right-most foot gets stressed:
How is "foot" defined?
> >IRMANDEN >| | | | >µ (µ µ)µ >| \ / / >s s s >/ir'manden/
I see this; apparently a closed syllable is 2 moras; or at least -CVn-, as in Japanese.....
> >KASIKULA > | | | | > µ(µ µ)µ > | | | | > s s s s >/ka'sikula/
Not sure I see this; why not /kasi'kula/? surely, discounting -la, -ku- is the rightmost foot??
>Final syllables containing a long vowel / a diphthong are always stressed:
Yes; these are clear. Can long vowels/diphthongs occur other than finally? what happens if they can? What would happen if item #1 were /irmaden/-- 'irmaden, I'd guess. This strikes me as more a "light CV vs. heavy CVC syllable" system-- but I suspect that's just moras by another name..... Rule 1: a diphthong/long V in the ultima is stressed, otherwise-- Rule 2: a heavy penult (-CVC-) is stressed, otherwise-- Rule 3: stress the antepenult (no matter whether heavy or light)

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