Re: Pronunciation of Japanese "j"

Douglas Koller, Latin & French wrote:
> Andreas wrote:
>
>> I was rereading Mark Rosenfelder's article on chance ressemblances
>> between
>> words in different languages, and was suprise to see Japanese "j" (in
>> _gaijin_, specifically) described as a "dental affricate" -
>> presumeably [dz_d]
>> or [dD]. Other sources give postalveolar [dZ] or even palatal [J\j\].
>> Anyone
>> nipponically enlightened out there feeling like telling me what's right?
>
>
> For my money, it's palatal, akin, but not identical, to Mandarin "j"
> (in pinyin). Dunno how that Sampa-izes. Voiced counterpart of
> Japanese "ch", which to my ear sounds like /tC/, Mandarin-esque "q".
> Likewise, Japanese "sh" is /C/-ish, Madarin "x".
Really? I was under the impression that the palatal POA was dorsal.