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Re: Classification and 'to be'

From:Pharamond Curtis <shmeos@...>
Date:Monday, September 28, 1998, 0:15
Joe, you wrote the following (among other things):

>One such distinction made is the following: > >le can gen le bet >the dog is [a member of the category] animal > >but > >le bet spes can >the animal is [has as a subcategory] dog > >First of all, I am not exactly sure how to term the distinction. >Secondly, are there any other conlangs [or natlangs for that >matter] that use such a system?
Joe, I'm afraid I don't know of any languages that make this distinction or what to call it. But with your permission, I would like to incorporate the idea into Yibrisitoj, my conlang that makes explicit what is normally implicit. I already have an odd way of handling "to be". In Indo-European languages, people don't distinguish between _be_ in the following instances: The dog is white. The dog is an animal. This doesn't work well with other copulative verbs. Take a look: The dog looks white. *The dog looks an animal. I wanted all my copulative verbs to work the same way; so I decided that copulative verbs could be followed only by adjectives and phrases that serve as adjectives. To link nouns with other nouns, I use the preposition _se_ which serves to make appositives. Karap pif raka. Dog be white Karap pif se timoj. Dog be animal If you allow me to use your idea, I could use another word, say _ge_, when saying, "The animal is a dog." That leaves the question of what to do when the predicate nominative is neither a subset or a superset of the subject. For example, what if "Megatron is Galvatron," and, "Galvatron is Megatron" are both true? I think I would allow users of my language to take their pick: _se_ or _ge_. Pharamond ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com