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Re: Swedish Chinese

From:Pavel Iosad <edricson@...>
Date:Tuesday, February 3, 2004, 10:24
Hello,

> >What are they? I only know about [ok]. > > Rather make that ["ok3\]...
Ah.
> > Well, unless you count the > >[u]-or-whatever in [kvIn:ur] as a spelling pronunciation (which it, > >AFAIU, historically is) > > _Att, av, och_ all used to be /o/,
_att_ and _och_ as [o] are surely something I've heard not once.
> _till_ used to be /ti/ or /te/, _vid_ (prep.) /ve/ etc.
Umm, _vid_ is [vI] for us students. Also _bredvid_ [brEv:I].
> <rant> but the worst by far is the _-ade_ verb > preterite, which historically was only [a].
But _sa_ and _la_ are kosher even in "proper" Swedish, aren't they?
> In fact most final and intervocalic _d g_ were historically [D G] > and were subsequently lost, so the pronunciation of [d g] in these > cases is strictly a spelling pronunciation for most lects.
Ah, that was what I was wondering about as well.
> Another thing is the ridicule directed at those who preserve a > distinct feminine gender.
What is it? Do you mean the *distinction* between masculine and feminine, as in _den gode riddaren_ vs. _den goda kvinnan_? Or something else? BTW, is it true that some lects have [stu:g] for _stod_ because no other preterite ends in [d], but plenty of them are in [g] (drog, log etc.)? Pavel -- Pavel Iosad pavel_iosad@mail.ru Nid byd, byd heb wybodaeth --Welsh saying

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