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EPT:representing back unrounded vowels in X-Sampa

From:Joe <joe@...>
Date:Sunday, January 18, 2004, 10:01
Andreas Johansson wrote:

>Quoting Joe <joe@...>: > > > >>Tristan McLeay wrote: >> >> >> >>>On Sun, 18 Jan 2004, Joe wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>But it's not [6]. I say this after years of experience living around >>>>RP-speakers. It's more closed than that. However, when I round it, I >>>>don't get [o], so I'm thinking it's probably [3]. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>So whats in 'bird'? I thought it was [3:] in RP? >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>It is. Length contrast, I think. The only other vowel that does that >>is [E] vs [E:](minimal pair - 'cairn'[kE:n] vs 'ken'[kEn]). >> >> > >'Cairn' is [kE:n] in modern RP? My school textbooks indicated it as [ke@n], >and I usually say [kE@n] (I also have [e@] for the vowel in 'ear', which my >texbooks indicated as [I@]). > >
Well, 'tis in my ideolect. [E@] and [e@] sound old-fashioned, to my ear. To me, |air| is [E:], and it's definitely a pure vowel. In a similar way, I think 'year' is probably [yI@] as of yet, but it's definitely heading towards [yI:].
> Andreas > > > >


Andreas Johansson <andjo@...>