On Mon, 20 Jan 2003 22:02:04 -0600 "Anthony M. Miles"
<theophilus88@...> writes:
> l-g-l
> Qal (active): ilagal ‘rule’
> Nip’al (passive): illagal ‘be ruled, serve’
> Hip’il (causative): uSalgal ‘cause to rule, anoint’
> Hitpa’el (intransitive/denominative): ‘be king’
> Pi’el (pluralize/intensive): ‘rule for a long time’
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Are these the Emegali names for the paradigms? I can't remember... is
Emegali a Semitic conlang with a 'grand master plan', or is it just
supposed to be very Semitic-like? I can't remember hearing a Semitic
root LGL 'rule' before (it sounds to me more like a variant of Hebrew GLL
'roll'), but it looks like the English word "legal".
> Qal
> Present
> 3sm ilagal
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like |y-|
> 3sf talagal
> 2sm talagal
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another authentic Semitic feature
> Preterite
> 3sm ilgul
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Now these are different! Semitic languages use suffixes for the past
tense, for instance to use Arabic patterns *lagaltu, *lagalta, *lagalti,
*lagal, *lagalat... (i've usually seen their verb charts go 1-3 person,
not 3-1. your order confused me for a second :) )
> Permansive
> 3sm lagil
> 3sf laglat
> 2sm lagla:t
> 2sf lagla:ti:
> 1sc lagla:k
> 3pm laglu
> 3pf lagla:
> 2pm lagla:tunu:
> 2pf lagla:tina:
> 1pc lagla:ni:
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These look like the Semitic past tenses. What is your "Permansive"?
> Participle
> M la:gilu
> F la:giltu
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Cool... More understandable Semitic(like?)ness!
> Nip’al (passive): ‘be ruled’
> Telic illagal
> Atelic illagil
> Imperative nalagil
> Infinitive nalagulu
> Participle mullagilu
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Geminated first radicals, like Hebrew. But what are the Telic and
Atelic?
> Hip’il (causative): ‘cause to rule, anoint’
> Telic uSalgal
> Atelic uSalgil
> Imperative Sulgil
> Infinitive Sulgulu
> Participle muSulgilu
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This reminds me more of the Pi`eil (intensive) semi-productive causative
sub-paradigm "Shif`eil", ex. ShHhRR "to free" (from HhRR(? maybe HhRH)
"free", ShKPL "to clone" from KPL "double".
> Hitpa’el (intransitive/denominative): ‘be king’
> Telic ultaggala/ulgaggala
> Atelic ultaggil/ulgaggil
> Imperative lutaggil/lugaggil
> Infinitive lutaggulu/lugaggulu
> Participle multaggilu/mulgaggilu
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Ooooooh, Arabic-style |-t-| infixes! :-)
> Example:
> Ilgul lugal Emegalam. Illagil Emegalam mnu-lugal. Usalgil kalat
> lugal.
> Ultaggil/ulgaggil lugal. Ulaggil lugal. Luggil lugal.
> The king rules the Emegalim. The Emegalim are ruled by the king. The
> land
> anointed the king. The king is king. The king (shall) reign for a
> long time.
> Long live the king!
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Very cool! But is there no definite article?
If you're basing this off of a 'grand master plan' from Proto-Semitic,
please tell me where i can get the info you have! This is making me want
to work on my Unnamed Semitic Conlang! :-)
-Stephen (Steg)
"t'avwan uk'shot."