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Re: A bit on Sturnan

From:Y.Penzev <isaacp@...>
Date:Thursday, April 18, 2002, 13:55
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From: Christopher B Wright <faceloran@...>
Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 4:34 PM

> Jesse Stephen Bangs sekalge > <I would find this more enlightening if you would elucidate the > difference > between possessive and genitive in your conlang. Perhaps one of them is > also partitive? What defines the difference?> > > Possessive: I currently own a certain item. > Genitive: It belongs to me in a more tenuous manner. > > For instance, "you have Magian's own luck" would use the genitive form of > Magian (whoever that is). However, "Magian's luck never failed" would use > the possessive.
Sound much similar to the idea of alienable and inalienable possession in some natlangs (like Polynesian etc.) In fact, genetive is just an indefinite marker of interrelationship between two nouns without specifying the kind of relationship. That's why one can find e.g. in Latin such types of genetive as subjective G., objective G., possessive G., partitive G., G. of source & origin etc.
> Chris Wright