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Re: LW again -- Noun and verb

From:Andreas Johansson <and_yo@...>
Date:Wednesday, August 28, 2002, 21:47
>From: "Thomas R. Wier" <trwier@...> >Quoting Mau Rauszer <maurauser@...>: > > > Zesefde Thomas R. Wier <trwier@...> ta 2002.08.27. her >13:31:57 > > -5h: > > > > > Quoting Mau Rauszer <maurauser@...>: > > > > Aspects: Habitual - Continous > > > > > > These aspects usually pattern together in languages. A more > > > common split is perfective / imperfective. > > Yeah but there they are different. > >How?
I can't fail to notice that you did not point out that distinguishing habitual vs continual but not perfective vs imperfective is unusual in your otherwise lengthy reply to my initial post on Yargish. Is there anything particular in Yargish that makes this state of affairs less surprising?
> > > > Voice: Passive: -lu. Used when the action happens to the subject. > > > > > > Is there an antipassive? How about an instrumental-focuser? > > > > Antipassive? It's probably just the unsigned "normal" form. > >That is not what the term <antipassive> is usually taken to >mean (though of course you can label your feature that, if you >so desire). An antipassive is a valence-changing operation on >a transitive verb that, like the passive, makes it an intransitive >verb. Unlike the passive, which demotes the agent and promotes >the patient to subject, the antipassive does the reverse, demoting >the patient to an optional peripheral phrase and keeping the agent >as the subject.
You asked about antipassives in Yargish too. I'm afraid I'm not yet entirely clear on the idea - could you give a natlang example? Andreas _________________________________________________________________ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail.


Thomas R. Wier <trwier@...>