Re: yet another romance conlang

        I'm late, I know, but I still have things to say about this very
interesting sketch :) .

[snip of the conculture part]

        Share it with us! This timeline seems very interesting. As someone said,
it must have changed the face of the world :) . I'm back in Conculture, so
you can share there I think.

>that's enough conculture stuff, here's the language:
>
>Phonology:
>simple stops:  / p t k b d g /  ~  { p t c b d g }
>
>stops' allophones:  [ P s x B z G ]  ~  (marked in 'full writing' with
>cedillas), according to Hebrew "beged-kefet" rules, only staying hard at
>the beginning of a word, after a syllable-ending consonant, and between
>two vowels where the first is 'small', some other exceptions.  does
>anyone understand the pattern of the Hebrew word [kEvEs], how come it's
>soft?
>
        Interesting, it means that your 't' and 'd' are alveolar? I did the same
for my new conlang (whose sketch I will show you soon :) ). I like it. I
didn't know about the "beged-kefet" rules, and I find this kind of
mutations very interesting (you will see in my new lang sketch that I did
something like that too :) ).

>
>'small' vowels:  / a E i o u /  ~  { a e i o u }
>
>'big' vowels:  / A<r> e ij ow uw /  ~  { a: e: i: o: u: }, {:} = macron.
>
        Why are the stops softened after 'big' vowels? I would like to understand
the reason of this because it's very interesting and I may steal it :) .

>Ju:dajca is commonly written in boustrophedon style, with alternating
>lines of latin (left-to-right) and hebrew (right-to-left) scripts.
>
        Pretty weird, but I like it :) (I am the creator of Chasmäöcho, I like
weird languages :) ).

>Hebraic Orthography:
[snip]

        I really have to learn the Hebrew alphabet as I did with the Arabic one.
Do you have a good URL to learn it (with pictures because I cannot install
fonts on this shared computer :( )?

>
>"Full writing" uses all distinguishing marks.
>"Defective writing" marks vowel distinctions in Latin script and
>consonant distinctions in Hebrew script, as well as using "mothers of
>writing" (consnantal carriers) to mark vowels:
>
>{ v f } use doubled _vav_
>{ j } uses doubled _yud_
>{ i } uses _yud_ like { i: }
>{ o u } use _vav_ like { o: u: }
>word-final { a a: } use _alef_
>word-final { e e: } use _hei_
>
        I don't understand very well. Can you explain a little more, I'm lost here.

>in "full spelling" all word-final vowels that don't have a consonantal
>carrier use _alef_.
>
>Noun Declensions:
>
>there are two cases, oblique (derived from genitive) and construct
>(derived from nominative).  this is due to the hebrew/aramaic
>sub/ad/super-strate influence re-interpreting the construction
>(noun) (of noun)  ~  nominative genitive
>as
>(noun of) (noun)  ~  construct oblique
>
        A Romance language with a construct case, I love that! I tried once to
make a Romance language with a semitic system using the vowels for the
grammatical distinctions. It was rather strange (something like /liNwe/:
language -> /leNwa/: languages, I don't remember exactly). Maybe it could
be an idea for another strange Romance language :) .

>Sound Shifts:
[snip]

>Miscellaneous:
>
>monosyllabic VC words which lose the consonant, the vowels become their
>"big" counterparts:
>
>et >> _e:_  "and"
>ad >> _ad_ [az] "to"; also _a:-_ direct object marker, similar to the use
>of Aramaic _l@-_ and Spanish "a personal" to mark direct objects.
>attached to the word (with a hyphen), and causes beged-kefet softening in
>initial simple stops.
>"even (though)" = _fi:lu:_, from Hebrew _afilu_.
>_havaj_ similar to Spanish "ojala'", based on Hebrew _halvay_.
>titles _mar_ and _marat_ [ma'ras] from Aramaic.
>Verb-initial word order.
>Collapse of neuter gender.....definite article(s) (and 3rd person
>pronouns?) based on forms of _hic_.
        Funny, to mark a distinction between the other Romance languages, I
derived the article in Reman from _iste_, thus obtaining _i_ in front of
consonnants and _t'_ in front of vowels (the article is invariable).

>Loanwords from Greek, Aramaic, Hebrew, Arabic, Yiddish (davina:l?)...
>Conservation of the passive conjugations...
        I did that too in Reman. They are so fun, I wonder why they disappeared in
all the natural Romance languages...

>Lack of the Celtic/Germanic influences that affected European
>romancelanguages...
>
        I often say that Reman has a few features that make it near to semitic
languages, for instance the mandatory article in front of definite nouns
(even with demonstratives and possessives) which acts mostly like a prefix
even if it's written separately (for instance, adjectives are generally
found in front of indefinite nouns, but after definite nouns because you
cannot separate the article from the noun), or the fact that subordinating
particles (conjunctions) must be followed by a mandatory subject which,
when it's a pronoun, takes the indirect form (the form it always take after
a preposition).

>That's as much as i can think of at the moment....any gaping huge
>problems to deal with?
>
        Everything's good! Continue like that, give us more about the grammar, I'd
like to see what you did with the conjugations :) .

>
>-Stephen (Steg)
                                                        Christophe Grandsire
                                                |Sela Jemufan Atlinan C.G.

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