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Names for derivative forms - request for comments PLEASE :)

From:Eric Christopherson <raccoon@...>
Date:Tuesday, March 7, 2000, 18:50
Hi, all. I've FINALLY written down some of my ideas for Dhak deverbatives.
What are deverbatives, you say? Well, Dhak is made up of lots of roots which
are mostly interpreted as referring inherently to verbs, e.g. "to be red,"
"to fly," "to be human," etc. Deverbatives are derivative forms of these
roots which act as nouns.

The thing is, I'm not sure what to call them. I have a list of the ones I've
come up with so far, with tentative names. Can anyone think of better names
for them? The ones marked with asterisks especially need help, but any
feedback would be welcome. Also, I've tried to make the names all end
in -ive if at all possible; is that a good idea?

Also, if anyone has a question or comment on the actual categories
themselves, besides the names, please say so. I hope the examples illustrate
sufficiently the use of the categories.

Nominal derivatives from verbs (deverbatives) in Dhak

Nomen actionis (gerund?)
        -Refers to the performance/occurrence of the action/event

Examples:       My going to the movies (from "to go to the movies")
                His intolerance (from "to be intolerant")

Nomen agentis - animate
        -Refers to the being who performs the action

Example:        The writer (from "to write")
                The person who threw the ball (from "to throw the ball")

Nomen agentis - inanimate
        -Refers to the thing which performs the action (always habitual?)

Example:        The printer (from "to print")

        -Refers to a place where the action/event commonly takes place

Examples:       The birthing center (from "to be born")
                The house (from "to reside")

        -Refers to an item which commonly allows or facilitates the action

Example:        The pen/pencil (from "to write")

        -Refers to a miscellaneous object (or being?) somehow
        commonly associated with the action/event

Example:        Food? (from "to eat")
                Midwife (from "to be born") (animate)

        -Refers to an item which commonly comes about as a result of the
        action (possibly this could include a kind of nomen actionis as

Examples:       The manuscript (from "to write")
                The publication (from "to publish")

        -Refers to the concept, belief, idea, etc. that action/event

Example:        That he be/is late (from "to be late")

Habitual agent
        -Refers to the being who performs the action on a habitual basis,
        e.g. referring to a job title

Example:        Judge (from "to judge")

        -Refers to a being/thing which is described by the verb, if the verb
        is stative

Example:        The red one (from "to be red")

        -Refers to a larger occasion surrounding or connected to the

Examples:       The movie (from "to show a movie")
                The test (from "to test")
                The wedding (from "to marry")

        -Refers to an institution (or office?) associated with the

Examples:       The leadership/government (from "to rule")
                My senatorship (i.e. my being a senator) (from "to be senator")

        -Refers to the actual fact that action/event happens

Examples:       That he is late (from "to be late")
                That I did not go (from "to not go")

        -Refers to the truth value of the action/event; i.e., whether it is
        true or not

Examples:       Whether or not it will rain (from "to rain")
                The transitivity of the verb (from "to be transitive")

        -Refers to the extent to which the action/event is true, if it
        operates on a continuum

Example:        The brightness of the light (from "to be bright")

Eric Christopherson / *Aiworegs Ghristobhorosyo suHnus