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Re: écagne, and ConLand names in translation (was: RE: RV: Old English)

From:Vasiliy Chernov <bc_@...>
Date:Tuesday, April 4, 2000, 17:23
On Sun, 2 Apr 2000 11:40:12 +0100, And Rosta <a.rosta@...> wrote:

>> An early borrowing (7th century or so) might yield _Shinger_ (riming >> with _finger_ rather than _singer_). Maybe, with a more ornamental >> traditional spelling: _Shyngre_. > >On reflection, an early borrowing seems unlikely, since the Anglosaxons >of that early period weren't yet interested in faraway places (AFAIK). >I'd guess that a borrowing would first enter English during the period of >the AS monasteries. OTOH, I do seem to recall Paul having mentioned to >me that Scungrians had early contacts with Northwest Europe, so
>there might have been a much earlier borrowing, not mediated by Latin, >direct from Scungric into Ingvaeonic or Proto-West-Germanic, or possibly >Proto-Germanic. Perhaps yielding something vaguely along the lines of >_Scungraland_? Obsolete Modern English _Shungerland_?
Proto-(West-)Germanic *Skungrjo would certantly yield OE *Scyngre, Middle English *Schingre, modern _Shinger_ (with possible alternative spellings) If you wish to play with compounds, you can use, besides OE _land_ (Shingerland), several OE words meaning 'isle': _ea_ (Shingrey), _ealand_ (Shingriland ?), _holm_ (Shingerholm).
>Still, can you explain why it would be _Shinger_? That is, did we get >u > y through affection from the final -ia?
Yes, through 'Umlaut'.
>And would -gria regularly >change to -ger? (I had a mere intuition that it would, but I couldn't >have said why.)
This appears to be the most natural development. Basilius