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Re: [wEr\ Ar\ ju: fr6m] ?

From:D Tse <exponent@...>
Date:Saturday, November 10, 2001, 7:46
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I can hear the difference most distinctly. It might help to
say 'gone' and
'born' which are [gQ:n] and [bO:n] for me and _definately_ don't rhyme
(the Macquarie gives /gO:n/ for 'gone', though, but when I was just
new to
the list something came up and an Adelaidean (now not active) said
that he
had a vowel he had in no other word in 'gone'. Of course, it might be
that
NSW doesn't have this feature). Another way is to compare an American
'/O/' (really [Q:]) with an Aussie. Or, of course, it could be that
Sydney's seen a Q>O or O:>Q: sound change...

Tristan

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<< I can hear the difference most distinctly. It might help to say 'gone' and 'born' which are [gQ:n] and [bO:n] for me and _definately_ don't rhyme (the Macquarie gives /gO:n/ for 'gone', though, but when I was just new to the list something came up and an Adelaidean (now not active) said that he had a vowel he had in no other word in 'gone'. Of course, it might be that NSW doesn't have this feature). Another way is to compare an American '/O/' (really [Q:]) with an Aussie. Or, of course, it could be that Sydney's seen a Q>O or O:>Q: sound change... Tristan
>>
No, heaven forbid it hasn't undergone that sound change. For some strange reason I've been using [O] all along when I meant [Q]. In fact, I always thought that gone and born contained [O] and [o] respectively. In that case, [o] must sound rather closed indeed... Imperative

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Tristan Alexander McLeay <anstouh@...>
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