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Re: CHAT: Three questions from a lurker

From:Joshua Shinavier <jshinavi@...>
Date:Tuesday, November 3, 1998, 14:54
> Oh, and I have another two > questions, because somehow I didn't get the responses the first time. > How do you decide on your vocabularies/morphemes? And what computer > program do you use. I use Excel myself because of the ease of > alphabetizing. > Well, I'll go back to lurking. Thanks a lot. > David
I hadn't used computers in conlanging until just before I joined this list. Even now the vast majority of my digitalized material is what you see on my web page (and what you don't see; the new page is much larger :); most writ= ten material is to be found in the heaps of white paper on my bookshelf, and al= l but a vanishingly small percentage of the vocabulary is only available in "neural" format. Recently I've become a little more organized, though, and have started documenting Arov=EBn in a notebook; despite a certain fondness= for digital files I like *writing* much more than I like typing (especially since I can use my own script when I'm writing -- it looks neater ;-). Lately I've been working on a digitalized "beginniner's dictionary", also for the purpose of putting it on my web page, using Microsoft Word. I shou= ld probably try out something more sophisticated sooner or later... About the vocabulary, I seldom make up new root ("basic") words anymore, bu= t longer words I coin almost every day as I come across a need for them; many= of them have to do with math and physics because I'm always learning new definitions in my lectures, but just as many are ordinary things I come acr= oss in the course of the day -- the button on my mechanical pencil which pushes= the graphite out, cloud shapes, the dark exhaust-streaks in the middles of road= s... anything that comes to my attention I like to give a name to, as a sort of mnemonic anchoring-point. Occasionally I'm more methodical: lately I've be= en going through encyclopedias working on my biological vocabulary, organizing it and coining words for things I don't have names for (often because I've = never really known about them, or because they didn't interest me when I first he= ard of them), like alveolates (fyortyltayl=EB) and spurges (laudalind=EB). The new words I like best are those I feel the need to invent before I real= ly even know what they mean: once in a while I see something and it seems familiar, in an intuitive sort of way, but I can't really say how; maybe it is a sense connected to some abstract concept, or maybe it's the impression= I have of a stranger standing on a street corner, who in some unexplained way seems *characteristic* -- but what the characteristic is I don't know, and = I feel I should have a word for it, so I invent a word which seems to fit tha= t sense as a reminder to come back and think about it again. Later on I may = come=20 across something else which brings that same word immediately back to mind = -- "aha, dvel ty=EBrna!" -- I just *know* that person is "ty=EBrn", and sooner= or later I "discover" what the word really means; it's never a concept familiar to m= e as a word from any of the languages I already know, otherwise that word wou= ld have come to mind right away. My favorite intelligence-related quote (by Einstein): "The human mind has first to construct forms, independently, before we can find them in things." My naming-language has always served m= e to solidify those forms which are to me the best and most fundamental; it w= as and is a way to conceptually order the world -- and from my point of view, therefore Arov=EBn's as well, those conceptions *are* the world.
> Hi all list people. I am generally a lurker, but I have to ask: am I the > youngest conlanger on this list? I'm 16 and have made five languages. > Right now I'm working on one based on Welsh.
My younger brother's your age; he doesn't have a conlang of his own but he = did make an attempt at learning Danov=EBn -- unfortunately he couldn't even consistently remember the word for "water", so I sort of gave up on him. All these posts from sixteen-year-olds and younger are making me feel rathe= r ancient; I had thought I was pretty young compared to other Conlang-ers. W= on't be long before I have to walk with a cane -- I might even have to pay the a= dult fare for my tram tickets :-) JJS