Quoting John Cowan <cowan@...>:
> > Ethnologue also claims Catalan and Valencian are the same and I have
> seen
> > quite a few flames in Spanish newsgroups discuting this isue and
> giving
> > examples of contrasting texts between both "languages".
>
> You can construct contrasting texts between British and American
> English,
> but it would be far-fetched to claim they were different languages:
When I was in Valencia, at least some locals were pretty adamant that their
language wasn't Catalan. Yet another instance were the mutual intelligible
criterion does not map well to what speakers consider themselves to be
speaking.
Andreas