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Re: Triggers and Voice

From:Muke Tever <alrivera@...>
Date:Monday, December 3, 2001, 1:42
>===== Original Message From Constructed Languages List >In Tagalog we have: > > ACTOR FOCUS > "Kumain ng ipis ang ibon." AGENT = focus > eat:AT GEN roach TRIG bird PATIENT = oblique > > PATIENT FOCUS > "Kinain ng ibon ang ipis." PATIENT = focus > eat:PT GEN bird TRIG roach AGENT = oblique > >Notice how the valency has not changed in the Tagalog forms. In >both forms, the argument that is not in focus is an oblique >argument marked by a genitive marker.
Hmm, in Dunamy you'd have something similar: "Ari pats ara vody."[1] /@ri p@ts @r@ vodZ/ eat.D bird.PRES NC roach (The bird eats the roach) "P'ar vodyas ara pat." /pw@r vodZ@z @r@ p@t/ eat.I roach.PRES NC bird (The roach is eaten by the bird) Which I guess works the same way, except that "ara" is not so much a 'trigger' as a 'trigged'. Anyway, is this like saying a trigger language has no transitive verbs? *Muke!

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