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Re: OT: sorta OT: cases: please help...

From:Thomas R. Wier <trwier@...>
Date:Sunday, December 9, 2001, 3:21
Quoting Yoon Ha Lee <yl112@...>:

> ObConlang: I think the only clitics I've got in *any* of my conlangs > are the conjunctions in Tasratal, which behave like the Latin "[X] > [Y]que":
Degaspregos had a whole series of clitics for functional morphemes. Here're some stuff from my old webpage: -ke relation including the addressee, "meosike" [="we AND you"] -le relation excluding the addressee, "meosile" [="we but NOT you"] -(a)-toi definite article, English "the". Used relatively sparingly. -sema indefinite article, English "a/an". Used relatively sparingly. -kwe occupies similar semantic space as "and", but indicates a close, tightly bound relationship (such as "'n'" in English "Boys 'n' girls"); this also serves to disambiguate phrases like "old men and women" where either "old (men and women)" ("senasi wirosi gwirosikwe") or "(old men) and women" ("senasi wirosi e gwirosi") could be meant. -ne question forming clitic; not only does this transform statements into questions, but the word to which it is attached becomes the point in question: "Amatane meom?" ("Do you love me?"), but "Amat teosane meom?" ("Do you love me?") -pe Y is not inherently part of X (Y may or may not imply X); e.g. "ergos wirosope" [="a man's work"]; [2] -re Y is inherently part of X (or will always imply it); e.g., "awosore pleukaptos" [="a bird's wing"]; [2] (For those who weren't here or don't remember, D. was based on IE roots, which is why I can so brazenly steal clitics from Latin.) The clitics are part of the phonological word, but not the morphological, so the accent in "meosile" is [meo.'si.le]. (Degaspregos accents the second mora from the right end of the phonological word. Nonfinality is active, so final syllables with multiple morae still don't get accentuation.) As of yet, I don't think Phaleran has any clitics. Need to check on that. ===================================================================== Thomas Wier <trwier@...> <http://home.uchicago.edu/~trwier> "...koruphàs hetéras hetére:isi prosápto:n / Dept. of Linguistics mú:tho:n mè: teléein atrapòn mían..." University of Chicago "To join together diverse peaks of thought / 1010 E. 59th Street and not complete one road that has no turn" Chicago, IL 60637 Empedocles, _On Nature_, on speculative thinkers