Re: OT: sorta OT: cases: please help...

Michael Poxon <m.poxon@...> wrote:

Nope, because there is no case here, if you define
"nominative" as being
"the case of the doer" - nothing's being done. In "the
student writes"
student is nominative (he's writing).
Mike
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i don't know what you mean by "doer" but as for myself, i
don't make a nominative necessarily depend on a performance.
plenty of langs tag the subject of stative verbs with the
nominative. now if you want to call each actor of a
predicate with different names than in the native grammar,
of course the actor of a stative predicate may be called
something else. but the linguistic books i've read (french
ones-- but hey, i'm where i am) still would call "I" a
nominative, "be" a copula and "student" an equative. on
another level of analysis they would also call "be-student"
a "comportement" and "I" an "entité". maybe wrongly? oh
well, i knew france needed more than a marshall plan! ;)
btw: thank you for being so lenient with my mistake with
latin!!!!! :) me ignorant.

actually, i think i will post some other gems from my ol'
french linguistic books: if you'd think "nomivative" here is
exotic, then you'll find yourself in Wonderland :)
for instance, hmmmm, let me pick... the two sets of
"prédicats endotropiques" and "prédicats exotropiques" with
their respective sets of "nominative-accusative" and
"agentive-patientive" actors. ever heard of that? :)))))))
i'm thinking of that now because i was about to try an
discuss it for fun on "engelang" (there's some in common
between this and Rick Morneau's stuff and my langs kind
of doodle with it and i'm so much at a loss in this regard).

Mathias
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