Re: Subordination

dunn patrick w wrote:

> All right, another question (now I just know I'm getting annoying, but =
for
> the first time in weeks I've got spare time).
>
> What are some of the ways you indicate subordinate clauses in your
> languages?  I was thinking in my new language I'm working on -- telu'at=
'a
> -- that I might have two methods of showing subordination.  In one, the
> subordinate clauses would function as a word, viz:
>
> (definite article/possessive pronoun) + subject noun root + verb root +
> object noun root + case + (distance)  So we'd have "The man who went to
> the store gave me a horse" as "The.man.going.storeward.nom. gave me.dat
> horse.acc".  This could also work with such things as "My hatred of her
> causes conflict" "my.hate.her.nom cause conflict.acc" which isn't
> technically subordinate but kills two birds with one stone.
>
> My other thought, was adding a verbal mood specifically for subordinate
> clauses.  But that just sounds boring.
Why sounds it boring?
Is telu'at'a aglutinative... polysyntetic?

About my conlangs, neither Hangkerimce nor Chleweyish have subordination =
the
way English (or all the IE languages I know) have, I guess.

Hangkerimce has a very fixed syntax, and subordination would be translate=
d
paraphrasing and refering to the previous sentence, then "The man who wen=
t to
the store gave me a horse" would be say like "man has gone to store" "he =
has
given me a horse".
PE_VE^YEM~LAN_YA_(store_sing) PE_VU/LA_(give)YA_(horse_sing), where PE_LA=
_YA_
means perfect action, VE^YEM~ is a/the man, and VU/ referes to VE^YEM~.

Chleweyish would approach from a different way: "man that, store (he)
has_been/gone, he what_happen? horse given_me"... puting some words: "fei=
no
eb=F3, chirda guempen, om=F3 can hinhiro syannoyn".

> Thoughts?
>
> --Patrick
--
Carlos Th
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Luh=EDz=F9langk=FBr=EB puh=EDz=F9langy=EFm=EAr=EB
Luh=EDz=F9langk=FBr=EB puh=E9v=F9lay=EFm=EAyih=EDz=F9
                -- Hangkerim proverb

Vec=FBr=EBrangk=FBr=EB
                -- Hangkerim proverb