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Re: YARPT (Was: Re: YAEPT: STRUT (was: RFC: Renaming 3B to Tezenki))

From:H. S. Teoh <hsteoh@...>
Date:Thursday, January 18, 2007, 20:44
On Tue, Jan 16, 2007 at 12:44:41PM +0200, Isaac Penzev wrote:
> H. S. Teoh wrote:
[...]
> | > 2. /o/ and /a/ indeed merge in unstressed positions, but have > | > allophonic [V] only in the Grade 1 reduction (that is, the first > | > prestressed syllable, and the final open one). Otherwise it is [@]. > | > | What about /ja/? Recently I've been wondering how to distinguish between > | the verb endings -ит and -ят when unstressed. Does -ят reduce to [jit] > | or does it remain something like [j@t] in order to be distinguished from > | -ит [jit]? > > We aren't talking about vowels after the palatalized consonants. They > follow different reduction patterns.
I see. What about compound words: does unstressed /o/ consistently reduce to [@] or [V] in compounds, or is [o] retained in some contexts? E.g. домостроение: is it [d@m@strV"jEn_jij@] or [dom@strV"jEn_jij@]? (I'm assuming that since домо- is derived from дом it would be stressed on the first syllable.)
> Let me consult the manual. Hmm. Strange. It is not stated explicitly. > But from the transcription examples we can see that indeed, -ят is > [;@t] and -ит is [;it].
[...] OK, that makes more sense. :-) What about -ятся and -яться? Are they [j@tsj@] and [j@t_jsj@], or are they [jitsj@] and [jit_jsj@]? T -- Marketing: the art of convincing people to pay for what they didn't need before which you can't deliver after.

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