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Re: YARPT (Was: Re: YAEPT: STRUT (was: RFC: Renaming 3B to Tezenki))

From:Isaac Penzev <isaacp@...>
Date:Friday, January 19, 2007, 9:59
H. S. Teoh pishet:


| On Tue, Jan 16, 2007 at 12:44:41PM +0200, Isaac Penzev wrote:
| I see. What about compound words: does unstressed /o/ consistently
| reduce to [@] or [V] in compounds, or is [o] retained in some contexts?
| E.g. домостроение: is it [d@m@strV"jEn_jij@] or [dom@strV"jEn_jij@]?
| (I'm assuming that since домо- is derived from дом it would be stressed
| on the first syllable.)

Hmm. Never though about the theory behind that. But in practice, compound
words usually have secondary stress. So, _домостроение_ would be
[,dom@strV"jen;ije].
Note also, that _оо_ cluster is pronounced as [@V]:
_кооперация_ [k@Vp;i"ratsi\jV], _воображение_ [v@VbrV"Zen;ije].

| > Let me consult the manual. Hmm. Strange. It is not stated explicitly.
| > But from the transcription examples we can see that indeed, -ят is
| > [;@t] and -ит is [;it].
| [...]
|
| OK, that makes more sense. :-) What about -ятся and -яться? Are they
| [j@tsj@] and [j@t_jsj@], or are they [jitsj@] and [jit_jsj@]?

Final clusters _тся_ and _ться_ should be both pronounced as [ts):V], that
is as if they were *_цца_. The preceding vowel is read as in non-reflexive
forms.

| T

I would recommend to study basic principles, and then do the "fine tuning"
of your accent by imitating a native speaker.

-- Yitzik

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