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Re: Tense marked on nouns

From:Remi Villatel <maxilys@...>
Date:Monday, June 7, 2004, 2:06
Sally Caves wrote:

> Only in some conlangs? :) elry krespr, "past-I write"? (I wrote) Unless I > still misunderstand you here. When the VERB is marked morphologically, you > say? or when TENSE is marked morphologically? Most Teonaht verbs have next > to no tense/aspect/person/number morphology. Only moveable affixes. They > are marked, however, for volitionality.
This example "past-I write" stroke my eyes. My conlang Shaquelingua also uses a clause-level marker which can be used on nouns with an adjectivale value. (In Shaquelingua, verbs aren't marked for anything, they don't exist.) The marker is a modal+tense compound, with a very large set of modal values. ve ke-kebis bjó to'kja. [ve: ke:kebis bjO to:.kja] the (imperative past)-work (descriptor) (indicative future) = I will do the work that was demanded. (The "descriptor" means that "work" is a physical object/action undergoing manipulation/execution.) ---------- tu'çaki seje lasjo-kebis tøl'rë filëjhge. [tu:Caki seje 4a.sjo:kebis t94(9)rë: fi4Ej.ge] (indicative distant future)'we own (negative potential future)-work (descriptor)'(undefined plural) robot. = We'll give to robots the work we won't be able (to do). (The "descriptor" means that "work" is an immaterial object/action that is effectively transmitted.) (And [4] is the japanese r/l, an alveolar flap.) ---------- Sometimes this modal+tense compound actually behaves like an english modal verb. Maybe it was so in an ancient form of Shaquelingua? I don't know, I haven't studied much of its history. do'rja ; kili ; jo'kja. [do:.xja] [ki4i] [jo:.kja] (conditional future)'thou ; also ; (implicative future)'I = If you (will) then I (will) too. ---------- diçreo'rja ; jisjeo'rja. [di.Cxe^o:.xja] [ji.sje^o:.xja] (conditional volutive atemporal)'thou ; (implicative potential atemporal)'thou. = If you want, (then) you can. ---------- lako'kaja deo-govilø ! [4ako:kaja: de^o:govil9] (negative imperative future)'my (conditional atemporal)-friend. = Don't (do it) if you're my friend! If you wonder why I use the imperative future, that's because whenever you order something to someone, it's always for an action in the future, at least after the end of your sentence. A progressive tense much closer to our present exists in Shaquelingua but you won't use it unless you're already pushing your (wannabe) friend aside or removing the hands of a child from hir plate. laki'rja ! [4aki:.xja] (negative imperative progressive retrospective)'thou. = Stop it! ---------- ji kaçtólu soe, [ji: ka.CtO4u so^e] (one soon until) -- ================== Remi Villatel maxilys_@_tele2.fr ==================

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