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Quenya words for "Orc" (was Re: tolkien?))

From:Jörg Rhiemeier <joerg_rhiemeier@...>
Date:Monday, December 15, 2003, 19:57

On Mon, 15 Dec 2003 17:23:37 +0100,
Andreas Johansson <andjo@...> wrote:

> Quoting Greg <greg.johnstons@...>: > > > Funny you should mention this, as I had too much caffeine last night and was > > reading the Appendices. The Quenya word for orc is evidently "orch," which > > uses the archaic Quenya spelling. > > Nope, it most certainly isn.t It's the Sindarin word for "orc", however. Pl > _yrch_. > > Quenya has a couple variants; etymological _urco_, pl _urqui_, and Sindarin- > influenced _orco_, pl _orqui_ or _orcor_. (This following the later info in > Quendi and Eldar; back in the 30s, when the Professors was writing the > Etymologies, _orco_ was a perfectly regular Q derivation.)
Of course, Quenya didn't have a word for "Orc" at all before the Noldor left Aman, as there were no Orcs in Valinor. The cognate _urco_ meant something like "nightmare" or "phantom". Greetings, Jörg.


Greg <greg.johnstons@...>
Benct Philip Jonsson <bpj@...>