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Re: Boreanesian in the Web (was: Why Triggers?)

From:Dungeonmaster <dungeonmaster@...>
Date:Thursday, October 25, 2001, 11:59
> >No, you are mistaken: eveything in The Netherlands ("The" should be > >capitalized, as it is part of the name) lies near Utrecht. > > 4.35 The names of countries ... are always capitalised. Thus: > the Federal Republic of Germany (Germany) > the Syrian Arab Republic (Syria) > Japan > the People's Republic of China (China) > the Grand Duchy of Luxembourg (Luxembourg) > > From that, it seems I'm right. At least for Australia.
I disagree. Compare: The Hague, Los Angeles, Las Palmas etc. The Netherlands is actually short for: "the Kingdom Of The Netherlands" The whole term is one single singular noun phrase. You say "I think The Netherlands is a beautiful country". If "the" were a real article and not part of the name, you would say: "I think the Netherlands are a beautiful country"
> > Although, I live > >in Krimpen aan den IJssel, which is near Rotterdam, which again is quite > >near Den Haag (The Hague, we are so fond of using articles in geographic > >names). > > 3.21 Accepted English forms should be used for foreign > placenames. For example: > (examples ending with:) The Hague > > So it seems that you write 'The Hague' (not 'Den Haag') but 'the > Netherlands' ... although what's the Dutch name for the > Netherlands?
The Hague is a more or less literal translation of "Den Haag", which again is an abbreviation for "'s-Gravenhage", meaning "the Duke's hedge". The Netherlands is called just Nederland (singular, as opposed to the English plural form) or fully the Kingdom of the Netherlands (Koninkrijk der Nederlanden).
> (I can also say that 'The Netherlands' and 'the Hague' just look broken, > which implies that most other people do them like that.)
I see The Netherlands a lot... I have never seen the Hague though...
> Incidentally, my Oma and Opa are Dutch. Or at least, my Opa was before he > died (right when I was printing something off the Net for him in 1996. How > inconsiderate is that?).
My opa's (why the sudden capitalization?) all died while I was on vacation... talking about inconsiderate! <pun intended>
> >We are proud to be the most densely populated country of Europe, > besides teh > >city-states of Vatican City and Monaco, with a proud 420 people > per square > >kilometer and a total population of over 16 million. And we cannot even > >build skyscrapers because our soil is too damp. > > On the other hand, Australia is proud to have one of the lowest population > densities in the world with a proud 1.5ish people per square kilometre and > a total population of over 19 million.
And still making a fuss about taking in a few boat refugees? Hah! Maarten van Beek

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Tristan Alexander McLeay <zsau@...>