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Re: Boreanesian in the Web (was: Why Triggers?)

From:Christophe Grandsire <christophe.grandsire@...>
Date:Thursday, October 25, 2001, 6:49
En réponse à Dungeonmaster <dungeonmaster@...>:

> > No, you do not :-) > PDF is hyper-text sensitive. >
Can you call for a point in another PDF-file this way? I'm far from sure. If you want it to work, you need to make the whole page into one PDF-file, and PDF- files are well-known to be very memory consuming (normal, seen that they are really complex electronic photocopies).
> > The whole point of Internet is that you can navigate easily. If you > > have to download a PDF file each time you move from one chapter to > > another, it's gonna be awful. > > Not really. On Windows systems, Acrobat Reader loads inside your > browser. So > you can page through PDF documents almost as if they were HTML > pages.
Taking approximately 10 times as much time to download than a HTML file of corresponding size. Moreover, it usually doesn't cache all the file, but gets only the page you're watching, making navigation extremely slow and difficult. When I really want to see a PDF-file, I download it and then print it, it's much faster. PDF
> lacks things like sound and moving images (afaik, but I have been > proven > wrong before), but for text documentation (especially unicode) it is > tyhe > best method there is, imho. >
True for text documentation, but not for browser navigation. Unless you have a really fast computer (and even then, the one I'm using is quite a powerful Pentium III computer, and still loading PDF-files through the browser is painfully slow. I'm in the process of buying a Pentium IV 1.6GHz computer, with 512Mo RAM. I'll see with this one how fast it gets), it's quite unfriendly.
> > > No, I think you should take the time to learn HTML (it took me one > hour to > > learn enough HTML to begin making my webpage, so you see how easy > > it is). As for transcription, remember that HTML allows also > subscripts > > and superscripts. It can help a lot. > > One more advantage of PDF files: Unlike HTML they do not call on local > fonts, but include there own. This allows the use of proper Unicode and > even > fantasy fonts. I have created fonts of the scripts of two of my > conlangs, > and can produce nice PDF documents in them. >
You can also use Dynamic Fonts for that, Nizar Habash (I hope I spelled the name right) has a very nice site with them, which loads very fast: http://www.cs.umd.edu/~habash/delason/ I don't know what the material is needed for production of Dynamic Fonts, but for what I remember, it's cheaper than Acrobat. Of course, you need a browser that supports Dynamic Fonts. I just hope it's not only the case of Internet Explorer and Netscape.
> > I believe PDF files are user-friendly enough, off course in combination > with > HTML files. I should make a small HTML site, indexing everything etc, > but > present the actual data in PDF files. The conversion from MS Word is > also > very simple and looks 200x better than from Word to HTML. >
True. Still, waiting for two minutes to get a single page downloaded is not what I call "user-friendly". And I had to go through such things when I try to read PDF-files through the browser.
> But most of all: PDF enables you to use Unicode (e.g. IPA extensions) > without worrying about whether the recipient has the proper fonts > installed. >
So do Dynamic Fonts, with a faster result. Both methods have advantages and drawbacks. Stick to simple HTML stays the best solution in my opinion.
> Maarten van Beek > (The Netherlands) >
Christophe (the Netherlands too, though I'm French :) . Do you liver near Den Haag? That's where I live). http://rainbow.conlang.free.fr Take your life as a movie: do not let anybody else play the leading role.

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