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Re: CHAT: Opperlands

From:Ed Heil <edheil@...>
Date:Thursday, May 13, 1999, 1:11
> >Hmm...does anyone happen to know why _stygius_ has a {y} when the Greek >word it comes from, _stugios_, has a {u}?
Ooh, I get this one! The Greek letter "upsilon" was a rounded front vowel in the popluar Attic dialect, and a rounded back vowel originally and in some other dialects; the lower-case looked like our "u" and the upper-case looked like our "y". So transliteration of an "upsilon" into a "u" or a "y" is a matter of taste, convention, and context. (There's lots of fun trivia about Greeks and u's.... Greek lost "w" very early, and the Attic dialects didn't even have a letter for "u" anymore, since upsilon was a *front* high rounded vowel; the orthography for a back high rounded vowel was "omicron-upsilon;" to confuse things further I believe that was also the orthography for a long rounded mid-high vowel. In any case, the Greeks were really screwed for orthography when adapting all those Roman words starting with V (=[w]).... They had to represent them with "ou" -- "oualerianus" = "valerianus"!) Ed -- Ed Heil * edheil@atdot.org "When you get your Ph. D. How happy you will be When you get a job at Wendy's And are honored with 'Employee of the Month.'" -- Bare Naked Ladies, "Never Is Enough"