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Re: by. The "If you call me insane again..." page, at long last!

From:taliesin the storyteller <taliesin@...>
Date:Wednesday, August 1, 2001, 7:22
* James Campbell said on 2001-07-30 17:49:44 +0200
> Thanks for the correction[s]. > > > No real errors apart from "for" in general not being used with "å > > kalle". > > Looks like my dict (which, in fairness, gives "for" as merely an optional > extra) is a tad formal. Duly noted.
Heh, aren't they all? I remember something from my earliest English- classes; you weren't exactly taught what to say if you wanted to go to the bathroom for instance (or how to explain -why- you needed to go) :) Puritanism? Nah... Anyway, I've found that dictionaries are in general much too formal (and outdated) for the normal, day to day use of language.
> > *I* would say: > > "Kaller du meg gal igjen eter jeg det andre øyet ditt!" > > > > (Actually it would be "kalleru mæ gal 'jen ete jæ r' andr' øye ritt!") > > Tal, whereabouts are you from? Your dialect shares one similarity > (the -æ ending) with the one I'm used to, around Bodø, but I'm > intrigued by the d->r shift.
I've been moved about too much to be "from" somewhere, really, but I spent my first six years about three hours by car north of Oslo so that's my "fallback" dialect, much influenced (read: fubared) by the other places I've lived and occasional code-switching with English of course. Statistically speaking, Cæ for the Ceg pronouns is the most widespread. In the dialect above, which is a very informal variant of generic "eastern Norwegian", pronouns also have a more standalone, emphatic form (as opposed to the quite cliticized forms in the sample above), "jæi, mæi, sæi, dæi". The r is a tap, same effect as in some Englishes with VttV and VddV becoming V - tap - V (butter, otter, ladder etc.). Here it is a fast speech phonetic effect only (aka. "allegro" or "allegretto" speech). t.