Re: OT: YAEPT: English low vowels (was briefly: Re: Y/N variants (< OT: English a...
|From:||ROGER MILLS <rfmilly@...>|
|Date:||Friday, December 14, 2007, 4:46|
>Gary Shannon wrote:
> > --- "T. A. McLeay" <conlang@...> wrote:
> >> Mark J. Reed wrote:
> >>> Right. Not all Americans have the LOT/THOUGHT merger, not even those
> >>> have the PALM/LOT merger. This is why there are so dadgum many
> >> sets
> >>> in Wells's list; i'm almost certain that no single dialect
> >> all
> >>> of them.
> >> There's Americans without the PALM/LOT merger?
> > I'm a native born American and I can't recall ever hearing anybody merge
> > PALM/LOT. Both PALM/LOT and LOT/THOUGHT mergers would just sound weird
> > Amuriken ears. PALM/THOUGHT on the other hand share the same vowel
>Really? The vowel referred to by the PALM lexical set is also the vowel
Is that also the vowel of LOT? it would be for me. Actually Palm, calm, balm
etc. (I feel) are not quite the vowel of Father-- Palm etc. is a little more
back and a little lower, but I suspect that's due to the following l+C
>(I gather some Americans pronounce "palm" with an /l/,
>for instance, tho
>I don't know if this is done with the vowel in the PALM (probably, see
>above) , THOUGHT or TRAP