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Re: USAGE: Shavian: was Re: USAGE: Con-graphies

From:Andreas Johansson <andjo@...>
Date:Tuesday, June 13, 2006, 16:42
Quoting R A Brown <ray@...>:

> Yahya Abdal-Aziz wrote: > > Hi Ray, > [snip] > >>It has when combined with universal education. Indeed, as I showed in an > >>email a week or so back, there has in my lifetime been a distinct move > >>towards _spelling pronunciations_ in words such as 'often', 'pestle', > >>'porpoise', 'tortoise' inter_alia. > > > > > > Yes, I read that. FWIW, I've never yet heard an > > Australian, New Zealander or South African give > > a spelling pronunciation to either 'porpoise' or > > 'tortoise' - except in jest. You know the story > > about "To all in tents and porpoises"? > > > > BTW, my wife and her family all say "fore-head"; > > even her parents used to (both died at over 90), > > whereas I and my family all say "forrid", rhyming > > perfectly with "horrid" and "torrid". > > ...and I still say 'forrid' - 'cause that's the way everyone around me > said it when I was a youngster.
Back in the late ´90s, our English teacher berated us students for saying [fO:(r)hEd]; he'd only accept [fOrId] (transcription somewhat loose). Andreas