Re: USAGE: Shavian: was Re: USAGE: Con-graphies

Quoting R A Brown <ray@...>:

> Yahya Abdal-Aziz wrote:
> > Hi Ray,
> [snip]
> >>It has when combined with universal education. Indeed, as I showed in an
> >>email a week or so back, there has in my lifetime been a distinct move
> >>towards _spelling pronunciations_ in words such as 'often', 'pestle',
> >>'porpoise', 'tortoise' inter_alia.
> >
> >
> > Yes, I read that.  FWIW, I've never yet heard an
> > Australian, New Zealander or South African give
> > a spelling pronunciation to either 'porpoise' or
> > 'tortoise' - except in jest.  You know the story
> > about "To all in tents and porpoises"?
> >
> > BTW, my wife and her family all say "fore-head";
> > even her parents used to (both died at over 90),
> > whereas I and my family all say "forrid", rhyming
> > perfectly with "horrid" and "torrid".
>
> ...and I still say 'forrid' - 'cause that's the way everyone around me
> said it when I was a youngster.
Back in the late ´90s, our English teacher berated us students for saying
[fO:(r)hEd]; he'd only accept [fOrId] (transcription somewhat loose).

                                                    Andreas