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Re: Umlauts (was Re: Elves and Ill Bethisad)

From:Christophe Grandsire <christophe.grandsire@...>
Date:Tuesday, October 28, 2003, 19:46
En réponse à Andreas Johansson :


>Hey, the thought of putting a trema on the not to be pronounced vowel is >nifty!
Hehe, in this case the rule that the trema should be on the second vowel overrules :)) .
>But now, I assume _exigu_ too is to be pronounced as [Egzigy] - why insist on >having a separate orthographic form for the feminine?
Because French feminists insist!!! And I'm not even kidding! :))) Unlike English-speaking feminists (and for what I know Dutch-speaking ones), the French feminists are currently lobbying for what they call "féminisation des noms de profession", i.e. that every noun that describes someone having some activity should have two forms: one masculine and one feminine. So nowadays we have "mairesses" (female mayors), "députées" (female MPs), "ministres" used with a feminine article, etc... while those nouns used to exist only in the masculine. But it's true that "madame _le_ ministre" sounds strange :)) . So you can imagine how they would react if we got rid of a feminine form in writing, even when it's not pronounced. Of course, there are irreductible words: how would you call a male "sage-femme"? (midwife) It has been decided: it stays "sage-femme" :))) . In Dutch, they did exactly the contrary: they kept only one form for such nouns, the most commonly used. So nowadays they have male "secretaresse" (secretary), with the typically female -esse ending :)) . I guess each way has its limits and stupidities :)) .
>Answer - French couldn't bear being more sensible than Meghean, which has >silent "h"s indicating definiteness on quite a few words. :)
Don't start me on Maggel ;))) . And anyway, I find "ambiguë" very nice-looking :)) . Christophe Grandsire. http://rainbow.conlang.free.fr You need a straight mind to invent a twisted conlang.

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Andreas Johansson <andjo@...>
Peter Bleackley <peter.bleackley@...>
Jean-François Colson <bn130627@...>