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OT: Russian and Ukrainian was Re: semi-OT: bilingual communication

From:Peter Clark <peter-clark@...>
Date:Saturday, January 25, 2003, 19:47
On Saturday 25 January 2003 12:37 pm, Isaac A. Penzev wrote:
> I was interested in this question for a long time. > Here are some observations based on what I heard from many people: > - Ukrainians have no problem with understanding both Russian and > Belarussian; - most Belarussians are bilingual, so Russian is no problem > for them, but I have no data about their understanding of Ukrainian;
Is this because Russian was/is the dominant language, or because of their similarity? You said below that "Russians who live in Russia, don't understand Ukrainian at all," which makes me think that Ukrainians understand Russian more from long exposure to it, likewise with Russians in Ukraine. My one experience with Ukrainian was when I went to a Ukrainian Baptist Church here in Minnesota. The preaching was in Ukrainian, but the hymns were in Russian. I understood the Russian well enough, but got a splitting headache listening to the Ukrainian--it sounds close enough to Russian that my brain was certain that it should be able to understand something, but couldn't! :)
> Ru. has 3 noun declensions and 16 verb types;
Masculine, feminine, neuter. Verb types: Imperfective Perfective ----- ---- Infinitive Infinitive Present Past Past Future Future Conditional Conditional Imperative Imperative Present active Present passive Past Active Past Active Past Passive That's not counting the verbal adverbs, I suppose.
> Uk. has 4 noun declensions and 11 verb types.
Masculine, feminine, neuter, ? What are the verb types? :Peter