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Re: A question and introduction

From:Muke Tever <alrivera@...>
Date:Friday, June 14, 2002, 1:32
From: "Andy Canivet" <cathode_ray00@...>
> >the case. "I see a non-cat" is a scalar negation: it means that you see > >something that belongs on the same scale with cats, but at a different > >point. (It isn't obvious what this scale is; "I see a non-white object" > >makes it fairly clear that it is *some* color or other, just not white.) > > Interesting - I don't know much about Lojban, but it sounds as if the > "scalarity" of the negation really depends on context. Although the most > obvious conclusion from "I see a non-cat" is that I see something which is > not a cat but which is near enough to a cat for me to describe it with > reference to "cat" and not some other object <gasp>. However, couldn't my > toaster, or really any extant object other than a cat be a non-cat?
[I don't know Lojban either but] you could reference things on a scale of catness to not-quite-catness--explaining to a child: that's not a cat, it looks like a cat but it's just a [possum, chihuahua, statue of a cat]. Or, if I was rummaging through a box of things looking for my little cat statue, I being me would probably end up calling everything I pulled out (toasters included) "non-cat" until it actually *was*. *Muke! -- http://www.frath.net/