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Re: CHAT: Phonemic status of English interdentals

From:Muke Tever <mktvr@...>
Date:Wednesday, October 9, 2002, 13:43
From: "Tristan" <kesuari@...>
> Nice and simple... 'rhythmic' is related to 'rhythm', which uses [D] > because of the voiced m ending the syllable.
(Shouldn't that be because the [m] is vocalic [m=] or possibly [@m] thus falling into John's rule?)
> Even if it's really in two > syllables. Just like -ism is /Iz@m/. Therefore, 'rhythmic' takes [D] > too. There is no such word as 'arithm', so any word beginning with it > just gets the normal [T].
True, but I was also wondering why <-arithm> kept its [D] in words it *didn't* begin or end with. [But I guess that's throwing in the Morpheme Boundary Monkeywrench again.] (Hmm, this could almost be a minimal pair: <arithmology> [T] vs. <arrhythmology> [D]?!)
> Oh, and I understand that because you're referring not to the > *orthography* of the word but to the word itself, you're supposed to use > quotation marks not angle brackets. I understand it as: 'quotes' refer > to the word; <angle brackets> to the spelling, [square brackets] to the > actual sound and /slashes/ to the phonemes. Of course, I could be wrong ;)
Hmm. Personally I prefer to use 'quotes' for English definitions, <angle brackets> for orthography (for any purpose), [square brackets] for phonetics and /slashes/ for phonemes, but I'm not always inflexible with that ;) *Muke! -- http://www.frath.net/