Re: CHAT: Phonemic status of English interdentals
From: | Muke Tever <mktvr@...> |
Date: | Wednesday, October 9, 2002, 13:43 |
From: "Tristan" <kesuari@...>
> Nice and simple... 'rhythmic' is related to 'rhythm', which uses [D]
> because of the voiced m ending the syllable.
(Shouldn't that be because the [m] is vocalic [m=] or possibly [@m] thus falling
into John's rule?)
> Even if it's really in two
> syllables. Just like -ism is /Iz@m/. Therefore, 'rhythmic' takes [D]
> too. There is no such word as 'arithm', so any word beginning with it
> just gets the normal [T].
True, but I was also wondering why <-arithm> kept its [D] in words it *didn't*
begin or end with. [But I guess that's throwing in the Morpheme Boundary
Monkeywrench again.]
(Hmm, this could almost be a minimal pair: <arithmology> [T] vs. <arrhythmology>
[D]?!)
> Oh, and I understand that because you're referring not to the
> *orthography* of the word but to the word itself, you're supposed to use
> quotation marks not angle brackets. I understand it as: 'quotes' refer
> to the word; <angle brackets> to the spelling, [square brackets] to the
> actual sound and /slashes/ to the phonemes. Of course, I could be wrong ;)
Hmm. Personally I prefer to use 'quotes' for English definitions, <angle
brackets> for orthography (for any purpose), [square brackets] for phonetics and
/slashes/ for phonemes, but I'm not always inflexible with that ;)
*Muke!
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