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Re: IPA for "Unfinished /m/"

From:Roger Mills <romilly@...>
Date:Sunday, April 27, 2003, 0:35
Arthaey Angosii wrote:


> I've discovered that in certain environments, the Asha'illen /m/ isn't > quite an [m]. What happens is that as you're pronouncing the m, your lips > close in on the final m-position, but they never quite close completely. > > So in a sequence like <am>, it's NOT [Am] but something sounding similar
to
> [Au] (or [Ao] or [Aw]). It's also like English "owl" without the <l> and > without rounding the <w>. It's also like (as my friend insists) says > "oww!" after getting your lip numbed at the dentist. > > How is this described linguistically and IPAly? >
One possibility: since the lips don't close or round, it could be a "nasalized bilabial approximant" or possibly fricative. I'm not sure how either one would be symbolized in schmampa. [v\~]? [B~]??? OR-- since you're hearing an unrounded "o/u" like sound, perhaps you're talking about a "nasalized velar approximant". I don't have a SAMPA list handy for that one ("velar approx." exists, I know)...

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