Re: IPA for "Unfinished /m/"

Roger Mills ikrí:

> Arthaey Angosii wrote:
>
>
> > I've discovered that in certain environments, the Asha'illen /m/ isn't
> > quite an [m].  What happens is that as you're pronouncing the m, your lips
> > close in on the final m-position, but they never quite close completely.
> >
> > So in a sequence like <am>, it's NOT [Am] but something sounding similar
> to
> > [Au] (or [Ao] or [Aw]).  It's also like English "owl" without the <l> and
> > without rounding the <w>.  It's also like (as my friend insists) says
> > "oww!" after getting your lip numbed at the dentist.
> >
> > How is this described linguistically and IPAly?
> >
> One possibility:  since the lips don't close or round, it could be a
> "nasalized bilabial approximant" or possibly fricative.  I'm not sure how
> either one would be symbolized in schmampa. [v\~]?  [B~]???
[w~] looks plausible.

> OR-- since you're hearing an unrounded "o/u" like sound, perhaps you're
> talking about a "nasalized velar approximant".  I don't have a SAMPA list
> handy for that one ("velar approx." exists, I know)...
That's [M\]. It may be it. As far as I understand, the difference is very slight
and may imply additional or double articulation...

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