Re: complete conjugation of a silindion verb
|From:||Elliott Lash <erelion12@...>|
|Date:||Monday, August 9, 2004, 20:04|
--- Jörg Rhiemeier <joerg_rhiemeier@...> wrote:
> > Hmm..that's unfortunate. I try not to go too
> > like. But, I guess it's unavoidable sometimes.
> Yes. AFAIK Silindion is a language meant to be
> spoken by "Elves"
> of some kind, as is Old Albic (though in the latter
> case, those "Elves"
> are actually humans). Hence, I find it hardly
> surprising that
> both our languages show some similarities to
> Tolkien's, be it
> conscious or subconscious.
I tend to try to keep it to a minimum, prefering more
of an IE basis, although you're right, certain
elements creep in.
> > It's always an a-, although this shows up
> > soemtimes, if the root begins with a vowel:
> > a + a > o anaskello "to shake hands" > onaskë
> > a + e > ë etyello "to lack" > eitë
> > a + i > ë ilparëallo "to fill" > eilparë
> > a + o > u orollo "to speak" -> urë
> > a + u > o ullë "to glow" -> olë
> I see. Much like the treatment of the augment in
> Sanskrit and Greek.
> Another similarity I observed between Silindion and
> PIE involves
> the formation of the perfect with reduplication
> (though Silindion
> doesn't have a special set of personal endings for
> the perfect).
Well, it does in the 3rd person singular, which does
not take an -n, but, since that only happens in the
subjunctive present and indicative present, I suppose
those are the odd men out.
> The Old Albic aorist subjunctive always has an
> - without the augment, it'd be the present
Usuaully the augment does not differentiate tense, and
can be ommitted in poetry or in Older forms of the
> > > > [more forms snipped]
> > And I forgot the passive subjunctive past:
> > nankeriusi nankeriuna
> > nankeriulë nankeriunta
> > nankeriu nankeriunto
> Why is it unaugmented?
It is augmented, in a weird way. All the passive forms
are built by combining the passive participle:
"nankerë", with the right form of the verb "to be". In
the past subjunctive, the verb to be is:
ëu- + endings
This form derives from Proto-Silinestic:
Where the first a- is the augment.
Then it became: oy-u
And then it combined with nankerë. At this point, the
two "ë" in a row, contracted to -i- To get the forms
you see above.
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