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Re: complete conjugation of a silindion verb

From:Elliott Lash <erelion12@...>
Date:Monday, August 9, 2004, 20:04
--- Jörg Rhiemeier <joerg_rhiemeier@...> wrote:

> > > > Hmm..that's unfortunate. I try not to go too > Quenya > > like. But, I guess it's unavoidable sometimes. > > Yes. AFAIK Silindion is a language meant to be > spoken by "Elves" > of some kind, as is Old Albic (though in the latter > case, those "Elves" > are actually humans). Hence, I find it hardly > surprising that > both our languages show some similarities to > Tolkien's, be it > conscious or subconscious.
I tend to try to keep it to a minimum, prefering more of an IE basis, although you're right, certain elements creep in.
> > It's always an a-, although this shows up > differently > > soemtimes, if the root begins with a vowel: > > > > a + a > o anaskello "to shake hands" > onaskë > > a + e > ë etyello "to lack" > eitë > > a + i > ë ilparëallo "to fill" > eilparë > > a + o > u orollo "to speak" -> urë > > a + u > o ullë "to glow" -> olë > > I see. Much like the treatment of the augment in > Sanskrit and Greek. > Another similarity I observed between Silindion and > PIE involves > the formation of the perfect with reduplication > (though Silindion > doesn't have a special set of personal endings for > the perfect).
Well, it does in the 3rd person singular, which does not take an -n, but, since that only happens in the subjunctive present and indicative present, I suppose those are the odd men out.
> The Old Albic aorist subjunctive always has an > augment > - without the augment, it'd be the present > subjunctive.
Usuaully the augment does not differentiate tense, and can be ommitted in poetry or in Older forms of the language
> > > > [more forms snipped] > > > > And I forgot the passive subjunctive past: > > > > nankeriusi nankeriuna > > nankeriulë nankeriunta > > nankeriu nankeriunto > > Why is it unaugmented?
It is augmented, in a weird way. All the passive forms are built by combining the passive participle: "nankerë", with the right form of the verb "to be". In the past subjunctive, the verb to be is: ëu- + endings This form derives from Proto-Silinestic: *a-ay-u Where the first a- is the augment. Then it became: oy-u Then: ey-u Then: ë-u And then it combined with nankerë. At this point, the two "ë" in a row, contracted to -i- To get the forms you see above. Elliott Lash __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - 100MB free storage!