Re: complete conjugation of a silindion verb

--- Jörg Rhiemeier <joerg_rhiemeier@...> wrote:


> >
> > Hmm..that's unfortunate. I try not to go too
> Quenya
> > like. But, I guess it's unavoidable sometimes.
>
> Yes.  AFAIK Silindion is a language meant to be
> spoken by "Elves"
> of some kind, as is Old Albic (though in the latter
> case, those "Elves"
> are actually humans).  Hence, I find it hardly
> surprising that
> both our languages show some similarities to
> Tolkien's, be it
> conscious or subconscious.
I tend to try to keep it to a minimum, prefering more
of an IE basis, although you're right, certain
elements creep in.


> > It's always an a-, although this shows up
> differently
> > soemtimes, if the root begins with a vowel:
> >
> >  a + a > o    anaskello "to shake hands"  > onaskë
> >  a + e > ë    etyello "to lack" > eitë
> >  a + i > ë    ilparëallo "to fill" > eilparë
> >  a + o > u   orollo "to speak" -> urë
> >  a + u > o   ullë "to glow" -> olë
>
> I see.  Much like the treatment of the augment in
> Sanskrit and Greek.
> Another similarity I observed between Silindion and
> PIE involves
> the formation of the perfect with reduplication
> (though Silindion
> doesn't have a special set of personal endings for
> the perfect).
Well, it does in the 3rd person singular, which does
not take an -n, but, since that only happens in the
subjunctive present and indicative present, I suppose
those are the odd men out.

> The Old Albic aorist subjunctive always has an
> augment
> - without the augment, it'd be the present
> subjunctive.
Usuaully the augment does not differentiate tense, and
can be ommitted in poetry or in Older forms of the
language

> > > > [more forms snipped]
> >
> > And I forgot the passive subjunctive past:
> >
> >  nankeriusi   nankeriuna
> >  nankeriulë   nankeriunta
> >  nankeriu     nankeriunto
>
> Why is it unaugmented?
It is augmented, in a weird way. All the passive forms
are built by combining the passive participle:
"nankerë", with the right form of the verb "to be". In

the past subjunctive, the verb to be  is:

 ëu- + endings

 This form derives from Proto-Silinestic:
  *a-ay-u

Where the first a- is the augment.

Then it became:  oy-u
Then: ey-u
Then: ë-u

And then it combined with nankerë. At this point, the
two "ë" in a row, contracted to -i- To get the forms
you see above.

Elliott Lash



	
		
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