Re: complete conjugation of a silindion verb

Hallo!

On Sat, 7 Aug 2004 06:39:00 -0700,
Elliott Lash <erelion12@...> wrote:

> --- Jörg Rhiemeier <joerg_rhiemeier@...> wrote:
> >
> > Your language is gorgeous, and your posts on it
> > shine a light
> > in the mirk of CHAT: posts and YAEPTs.
>
>  Thanks alot, I usually am wary of sending a huge mail
> full of just language forms, with not commentary. it's
> good to know people read them from time to time.
Well, to me at least such mails are better than posts about
English pronunciation or matters entirely unrelated to conlangs
and conlanging (except when they concern one of my other fields
of interest, of course).  I always like to see nice grammatical
paradigms.  And Silindion is one of those conlangs that interest
me most.

> [principal parts and their formation in Silindion]
>
> > The nasal element expressing the imperfect tense
> > reminds me
> > of Quenya.
>
> Hmm..that's unfortunate. I try not to go too Quenya
> like. But, I guess it's unavoidable sometimes.
Yes.  AFAIK Silindion is a language meant to be spoken by "Elves"
of some kind, as is Old Albic (though in the latter case, those "Elves"
are actually humans).  Hence, I find it hardly surprising that
both our languages show some similarities to Tolkien's, be it
conscious or subconscious.

> > [imperfect formation in Old Albic]
>
> This system is very very cool. I really like it.
Thanks!

> > > c) Past Tense
> > >  anankeisi  anankeina
> > >  anankeilë  anankeinta
> > >  anankë     anankeinto / anankeintë
>
> > Does your augment also assimilate to the root vowel
> > as in Quenya
> > or Old Albic, or is the vowel fixed as in Greek or
> > Sanskrit?
>
> It's always an a-, although this shows up differently
> soemtimes, if the root begins with a vowel:
>
>  a + a > o    anaskello "to shake hands"  > onaskë
>  a + e > ë    etyello "to lack" > eitë
>  a + i > ë    ilparëallo "to fill" > eilparë
>  a + o > u   orollo "to speak" -> urë
>  a + u > o   ullë "to glow" -> olë
I see.  Much like the treatment of the augment in Sanskrit and Greek.
Another similarity I observed between Silindion and PIE involves
the formation of the perfect with reduplication (though Silindion
doesn't have a special set of personal endings for the perfect).

> > >
> > > f) Past Subjunctive
> > >   (a)nankëusi   (a)nankëuna
> > >   (a)nankëulë   (a)nankëunta
> > >   (a)nankëu(n)  (a)nankëunto / -ntë
> >
> > What do the (a)s mean?  Is the augment optional?
>
>
> It is optional, or at least sometimes the texts i
> write have it, sometimes they don't...I guess
> sometimes i forget about it in this tense.
The Old Albic aorist subjunctive always has an augment
- without the augment, it'd be the present subjunctive.

> > > [more forms snipped]
>
> And I forgot the passive subjunctive past:
>
>  nankeriusi   nankeriuna
>  nankeriulë   nankeriunta
>  nankeriu     nankeriunto
Why is it unaugmented?

> > > Well, there you have it, a Silindion verb in all
> > it's
> > > glory. I hope that it was somewhat enjoyable
> >
> > Thanks!  It was!  Your language is a true
> > masterpiece!
>
>
> thank you once more, I really like the look of Old
> Albic as well
Thank you!

Greetings,

Jörg.

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