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Re: Comparison of philosophical languages

From:Andrew Nowicki <andrew@...>
Date:Thursday, January 23, 2003, 22:08
Sarah Marie Parker-Allen wrote:
SMPA> Which makes one wonder what to call a linguist.
SMPA> ^_^  Or a translator, or the guys who fix radios,

linguist = odeco = "noun language expert"
translator = ocodeja = "noun changing language craftsman"
radio = ojuceje = "noun loud communication machine"
radio repairman = ojuceja = "noun loud communication craftsman"

SMPA> or the multi-functional Communications Officer of
SMPA> Star Trek fame (who is a linguist, translator,
SMPA> AND radio fixer!).

oceco = "noun communication expert"

SMPA> Some of your compound definitions make me laugh,

Than you!

SMPA> I'm afraid, and more than a few make no sense to me
SMPA> at all (noun religious shape = cross???)  So basically
SMPA> the star of David, and dozens [hundreds] of other
SMPA> religiously charged shapes are left out in the cold?

I prefer short names. Here is a long, precise name:
cross = ybonako = "noun wet religious shape"

SMPA> Anyway, enough of my rantings.  I strongly suggest
SMPA> that you consider why, precisely, so many things have
SMPA> proper names that are more or less universally known
SMPA> (e.g., the word "Mormon" is translated only in the
SMPA> sense that we modify it grammatically, so that, for
SMPA> example, the Russian Book of Mormon is "Kniga Mormona")
SMPA> There's absolutely no reason to delete words that are
SMPA> easy to say, have a meaning that resonates OR that is
SMPA> distinct and not shared by anything else...

You can say "ubi Mormon" in Ygyde.

Ygyde has six prepositions for importing foreign words:
"uba" indicates that a foreign astronomical name follows this word
"ube" indicates that a foreign geographical name follows this word
"uby" indicates that a foreign name of a species follows this word
"ubo" indicates that a foreign name of a material or chemical follows this word
"ubu" indicates that a foreign person name follows this word
"ubi" indicates that other foreign name follows this word

I wonder if more such prepositions are needed.
There is plenty of room for more of them. For example,
it may be useful to have prepositions indicating
religious terms, foods, even alcoholic beverages...

SMPA> Anyway, why not at least make it less potentially
SMPA> offending to those who grew up with "all wet" as
SMPA> an insult?  You could make it "proper noun [verb
SMPA> wet making] religious organization" or something.
SMPA> You still have the problem of making your words
SMPA> sound too much alike, but having lots of "proper
SMPA> noun [verb something-that-group-does] religious
SMPA> organization" words would at least make sense.
SMPA> As a Mormon let me suggest "proper noun [verb wet
SMPA> making {noun dead people}] religious organization"
SMPA> It sounds hideous, but it's more accurate and less
SMPA> confusing (relatively few religions perform baptisms
SMPA> for the dead, but if they actually baptized dead
SMPA> bodies you could make it "verb wet making {noun
SMPA> dead people} adjective by proxy]" instead ^_^) than
SMPA> "proper noun new religious organization" or whatever
SMPA> you had for us before.

Ygyde compound words are made of adjectives (listed in the
adjective table) and nouns (listed in the noun table).
Verbs are not permitted and they cannot be permitted
unless we double the number of vowels (from 6 to 12).
At present the longest compound words are 7 letters long:
V-CV-CV-CV (V = vowel, C = consonant). These words have 3
root words (CV). It is theoretically possible to make
longer compound words, but everybody hates long names.
Nobody calls North Korea "Democratic People's Republic
of Korea." I would not dare to call Mormons "dead wet
organization." Maybe you can coin a better name for Mormons?
If you are going to use "ADJECTIVE-ROOT religious
organization" structure, you can get the adjective from
the adjective table. It is listed in:
http://www.medianet.pl/~andrew/ygyde/ygyde.htm.
1874 examples of compound words are posted at:
http://www.medianet.pl/~andrew/ygyde/ygyded.htm

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